Mandy and Courtney, who work in legal marketing, live in Athens, Pennsylvania with Courtney's daughter Mackenzi and their three sons — Magnus William Linden, Abbott Ivan Hawthorne, and Hollis Benjamin Ash.
Their latest addition, Hollis, was born on June 17, 2021. Here, Mandy tells us about nicknames, her and Courtney's special naming formula, and how they named their son Hollis Benjamin Ash.
Our first son Magnus is the same way. When I was pregnant with Magnus, I wanted to name him Magnolia if he was a girl, because I liked the nickname Maggie. And then he was a boy, so we went with Magnus with the nickname Maggie. The amount of pushback that Igot on that was unbelievable. Little old ladies would ask him what his name was and be like, “Maggie? That’s a girls’ name!”
Family members were like, “You need to stop calling him that.” I'm gonna call him that harder now! We decided that if we had more sons, we would try to find names that had girl nicknames.
With Hollis, we didn't have a nickname in mind. And then my husband blurted it out: “What about Hollis? And we can call him Holly.” And that is how that came about.
Abbott goes by whatever you like to call him. He’s very proud of his nickname, Abby.
The people that gave me grief the first time around with Maggie know that we don't care about their opinion, or maybe they've evolved a little.
When they would do that with Magnus, I would respond, “Well, that's his name — I don’t know what you mean.” Now I'm a lot more confident. I would just be like, “Stop with the bullshit. Let’s not do that here. Get over it.”
My only concern was Rachel Hollis, from Girl Wash Your Face. I can't stand her. And I was like, “I hope people don't think I named him after her!”
Our first child was named Juniper and she died at birth. We never had another girl, but I had all these nature names planned for future daughters. So I did like that nature connection with Hollis too.
The second middle name is the tree, to honor Juniper. Hollis is Ash, Magnus is Linden, and Abbott is Hawthorne. With Magnus, we chose Linden because we took a trip right before he was born to Niagara Falls. We were walking through the botanic gardens and there was this grove of linden trees. We were having a moment together and were like, “That's the name!” It all just came together.
For the other boys, we thought of other trees that were name worthy.
As as for boy names, it was just Hollis. There are tons of names that I like — agreeing with my husband is the hard part.
I live in rural Pennsylvania, so there are a lot of country names, tending more towards the cowboy names. There are a lot of Colts, some Remingtons, named after guns. And then there's always a lot of there are a lot of Madisons still. Sophia, Isabella, Ava — pretty vanilla stuff.
One of my favorite names is Gideon. I liked Dashiell. I have a friend who has a son named Dashiell though, so it's always been a no-no.
I had more girl names — I really like Ophelia. I like Persephone a lot, a lot, a lot. Ezra for a girl. And then I love all the tree names and flower names. I've always liked the name, Lavender, which is a tree name.
It's funny. When I would go to my OB appointments, I was an older mother this time around, which makes me feel ancient. But they would call out Amanda and two other people would stand up. It was like high school all over again
I was always one of several Amandas. I go by Mandy, but even with that, there were four others. I did not want my kids to have popular, common names.
Courtney is ten years older than me. My mother-in-law is not a creative type — it's kind of surprising that she named him that. She swears it's a boy name and it was on the boy side of the book. His middle name is Brooke, with an E.
He likes it. He still gets a lot of flak for it, but he's a huge guy and that probably helps. The feminine nicknames honored him because we didn't want to do Courtney Junior or anything. But I don’t know if I would have continued the pattern if people hadn’t given me grief about it.
I probably would do Ophelia. Or Maple Ophelia — I like a really girly middle name.
It's so narrow now for a boy. I can't even think of another name that would generate a cute girly nickname! If I had to do it again, I would probably think of the nickname first and then work backwards. I’ve always liked Annie, but that might be too close to Abby. Some of the others that I like are almost too cute, like Mamie.
My mother's family is from Sweden, and I really like Swedish and Scandinavian names. We had Soren on our list, and Stellan. But Stella isn’t really a nickname. My mom’s maiden name is Kjellander, so I’ve always like Kjell (pronounced like “shell”), but that would be liketorture for their whole life because nobody would ever pronounce it correctly.
And then Abbott would name him Garbage Truck or something.
Courtney always liked the names Dresden and Quickening for a girl. And Desmond for a boy.
When we first met, we were having that hypothetical talk about what we would name our kids. We both liked Star Wars a lot, and he loved the name Kenobi. I suggested the combo Violet Kenobi, thinking that we're not going to get married and actually have kids. But he was into it.
When we were pregnant with Juniper, I told him, “I don't know about Kenobi anymore. It might be too much.” And he was like, “You said you liked that name!” We still kind of joke about that, but I don't know if I'd want to go that into Star Wars fandom.
I asked some of my friends at work and there were mixed opinions. Some people thought it was weird, but a lot of people liked it. Now I wouldn’t bother to take a poll. Just do what you want and don't worry about other people.
Thank you so much, Mandy!
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Sophie Kihm has been writing for Nameberry since 2015. She has contributed stories on the top 2020s names, Gen Z names, and cottagecore baby names. Sophie is Nameberry’s resident Name Guru to the Stars, where she suggests names for celebrity babies. She also manages the Nameberry Instagram and Pinterest.
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